Curse

The undead Mesmer · Nov 12, 2005, 12:35 PM // 12:35

i dont know what you all are whining about

i like the update but i hate it that they didnt add the wells to the scatter mobs

Green defense bubble <---- stole that quote sorry.

but annyways i dont hate it its funny and it gives more tactic to the game.

aron searle · Nov 12, 2005, 12:37 PM // 12:37

enemies now run out of AOE spells and just stand their doing nothing sometimes, especialy when solo.

tactics?

its like fighting the biggest bunch of noobs ever.

Scaper · Nov 12, 2005, 12:39 PM // 12:39

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Originally Posted by unienaule

You picked the wrong person to call earth crap to, man. I've been using earth for the entire game. It's not junk. Here's something for you to try: Enervating charge, Stoning, aftershock. That's a knockdown, weakness, AND a ton of damage, all for no exhaustion. Throw in Ether Prodigy, and you can keep doing that FOREVER. Have you ever tried taking a ward against melee? Keeps monks alive very well. I've never found a better skill to spike monk bosses with than Obsidian Flame. Armor of earth and Kinetic Armor are amazing. I have over one thousand hours in game, and over 950 of them were spent on an earth ele. It's not junk.

Unien Aule

Yeah sure Ele Earth build could work but, thats not my point really. Why should I have to switch to Ele Earth becuase Fire Ele to effective? NO I shoudl not have to! Besides how fast can you kill a mob with earth? If you replaced the Echo Nukes with Echo Earth in FA farm, before it was nerfed, who you think kills faster? My guess is Fire ele!

Like if we were inside FA CAVE, before they nerfed it, and I nuked the Furnace guardain on the left and your took the one on the right who you think win killing race? My bet is I would proabably win who kils faster! I could proababbly kill in less than 1 min! an earth ele who relized on suck conditiosn as knockdown dont have much effect on them, in that race its about dam! i bet even if you had earth 16 and I had Fire 14 I probably still win! Bottom LIne this AoE Undates STILL SUCKS! ANd its baised toward Nukes in general of all elementals! ELEMENTALS HOMELESS GUILD NOW RECRUITING! lol

Sincerly, Scaper

wolver1ne · Nov 12, 2005, 12:43 PM // 12:43

Yadda yadda.. people whine and whine. If you, as a player, are gettting affected by AoE, you don't stand on that same spot, you move your ass away from it. So why shouldn't the foes in PvE do the same? Because you can't farm a 100 foes group at once anymore? Awwww poor you! Give me a break.

Great update.. will take more to win now than just agro and shower.

aron searle · Nov 12, 2005, 12:46 PM // 12:46

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Yadda yadda.. people whine and whine. If you, as a player, are gettting affected by AoE, you don't stand on that same spot, you move your ass away from it. So why shouldn't the foes in PvE do the same? Because you can't farm a 100 foes group at once anymore? Awwww poor you! Give me a break.

Great update.. will take more to win now than just agro and shower.

Why dont you read instead of flame people.

1 shot aoe spells.

CYLCLONE AXE making them run away.

so do you run away from cyclone axe then or 1 shot aoe, ok then.......

unienaule · Nov 12, 2005, 12:46 PM // 12:46

1) It's not all about damage.
2) I didn't say anyone should switch, the elements are about EQUAL now.
3) This is a very important point, that nukers were the only class before now that never had to change their builds depending on the occasion.

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Originally Posted by Antc

Altho i didnt like the 1st update, and havent checked out the 2nd one yet, it just occurred to me whilst reading this....

If i get in a group at ToA or SF with my monk, and they ask if can switch from healing>prot or vice versa, i'm quite happy to change my attributes and skillset to be part of that group. The same goes for my necro, if theres more than one necro in the group it gets decided who is going blood/death and who is going curses, and again, i will rearrange my skillset and attributes to suit.

The thing that occurred to me is this: I have NEVER even considered changing the set up for my pyro, it has had 16 in fire since i got all the attributes. The only exception is when i've changed to air spiker for PvP or GvG.

I guess now i'll have to be as flexible with my ele as i am with my other characters.

Loralai · Nov 12, 2005, 01:01 PM // 13:01

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Originally Posted by Trinity Entragian

Maybe the answer to fixing class discrimination in GUILD WARS is to eliminate PUGs all together. Make every PvE mission and quest Guild based. hmmm...

Sincerely, Trin

Nice thought, but it would never work. There are just some players out there that don't belong in guilds.

aron searle · Nov 12, 2005, 01:02 PM // 13:02

Hundred blades also causes them to flee as well as cyclone axe

/broken

=HT=E5Destroyer · Nov 12, 2005, 01:03 PM // 13:03

i also do not like this update. same reasons. if this update stays then they need to remove athe AOE spells ebcasue they are worthless now unless you PVP. maybe thats whay they want us all to go to pvp.. oh well i was just getting back into this game guess ill go back to bf2..lol

Hash Mama · Nov 12, 2005, 01:06 PM // 13:06

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Originally Posted by aron searle

Hundred blades also causes them to flee as well as cyclone axe

/broken

naah u can still kill griffons in like 5 minutes its only stupid game made buy not so wise pips.......F U C K AoE praise ur brain

aron searle · Nov 12, 2005, 01:08 PM // 13:08

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naah u can still kill griffons in like 5 minutes its only stupid game made buy not so wise pips.......F U C K AoE praise ur brain

Dont tell me to use my brain, use YOURS.

100 blades is a 1 shot SWORD skill, enemies should not run form it.

YET ANOTHER SKILL that warrios now cant use to tank effectivly. (dont harp on about snares, they are not as efficent).

John TrickKnee · Nov 12, 2005, 01:08 PM // 13:08

This game was clearly designed so you couldn't go out alone to kill things and survive. Unfortunately, they made warriors, fire elems and the invincimonks able to do just that. They are trying to correct these errors.

The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win?

Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all.

Loralai · Nov 12, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

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Originally Posted by John TrickKnee

This game was clearly designed so you couldn't go out alone to kill things and survive. Unfortunately, they made warriors, fire elems and the invincimonks able to do just that. They are trying to correct these errors.

The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win?

Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all.

Wrong. The proper design for a game of this sort would be an error message of this sort. "You must have x number of players on your team before leaving x town."

aron searle · Nov 12, 2005, 01:10 PM // 13:10

Quote:

This game was clearly designed so you couldn't go out alone to kill things and survive. Unfortunately, they made warriors, fire elems and the invincimonks able to do just that. They are trying to correct these errors.

The whiners are proving that this update was needed. When I see people complain that they can't solo 20 or 30 monsters at once, I feel like hurling. Since when is it reasonable for one character to be able to survive 30 on 1? Realistically, nobody should be able to handle more than 2 or 3 vs. 1. Maybe 5 at the most. Go walk down dark alleys until you get jumped by 3 guys. You think you will win?

Thank your lucky stars that you were able to exploit these imbalances as long as you did. If you don't want to play Guild Wars because of this change, please go back to your kiddie games. Some people are never happy unless they have an unfair advantage. I won't miss you at all.

Should

Cyclone axe
100 Blades
Wirling defense

cause monsters to flee

its retarded ai at its best.

=HT=E5Destroyer · Nov 12, 2005, 01:18 PM // 13:18

they need to do something about monks. maybe giving other prof better healing skills. i am sick of these monks thinking they are all high and mighty.

Hash Mama · Nov 12, 2005, 01:37 PM // 13:37

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Originally Posted by aron searle

Dont tell me to use my brain, use YOURS.

100 blades is a 1 shot SWORD skill, enemies should not run form it.

YET ANOTHER SKILL that warrios now cant use to tank effectivly. (dont harp on about snares, they are not as efficent).

Sorry if u felt abused i didnt mean that.I know they shouldnt run away from hundred or cyclone ,true ,and the sadest thing is that AN "tank guide" can be used now to stick it deep in AN guys asses....

I am just sad, couse we could make all the q in uw in 3-4 hours and now it will take about 10 so how i am supposed to play Gw. I need to work ,sleep ,RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO my wife and make living, i doubt if anybody of my guild will be abble to stick in UW for such a long time.Nevermind ,griffons are same way stupid as they where not mentionig unded.They still kill them selfs on retribution and soj.....it just take a while longer

Peace

aron searle · Nov 12, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

Yea my invinci monk was killed hydra farming last night.

He was bored to death.

Zexion · Nov 12, 2005, 01:55 PM // 13:55

aron searle is my God!

And besides, when normal (ie non-retarded) players run out of AoE, they don't run 10 meters away, and stand there for 5 seconds, before returning.
Monsters do that. They run so far away, for so long THAT THEY ACTUALLY REGENERATE HEALTH IF THEY ARE NOT UNDER THE EFFECT OF DEGEN!

KKTHXBI, to those who still defends this update.

_Zexion

Leslie · Nov 12, 2005, 02:09 PM // 14:09

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Originally Posted by Ard Wen

Anet needs to get rid of the patch for at least a few weeks to reevaluate the sitution. The idea of what they were doing was decent, but it was implemented terribly. The AI just runs around like a stupid chicken everytime it gets hit. This makes em stupider not smarter.

I agree 100% with this. they run away from almost anything now. Minotaurs ran aqway from Mark of Pain just now; it annoyed me so much i just had to log off. I really hope they fix this soon

Hash Mama · Nov 12, 2005, 02:21 PM // 14:21

Yea farming its easier now couse we face a bunch of cowards.All monsters become COWARDS they are running now to mommy....("mommy mommy he hit me buuuuu") it is becoming to easy geez i like my black dye drops